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before you take the abikara and samabat job to its own extinction.. give them back their stun, remove the item/s that removed it.. without stun and with no power at as21 abikaras will no longer be enjoyable.. why don't you try the damage of the as21 abikara first FR? :g7: you suddenly moved a suggestion into action without thinking of what it will do to that job :g7: without stun an as21 abikara can't kill :g7: :g7:
THINK :g34:
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and btw FR.. if you want the abikaras back to as21 you should do the editing now.. why ask people to do something they don't want? :g7:
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Please read the topic and what have been discussed before ranting.. I will quote Gm 3000's last post as a reply to your thread..
Hello wait maintenance.... Maybe Stun Fixed ....
https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7476.0 (https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7476.0)
For Level etc ... wait please --- STUDY
THANKS .... :)
Here's the thread's link for reference: https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7446.msg10603094#msg10603094 (https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7446.msg10603094#msg10603094)
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druka yata ng suggest ng level down bug. sana gumawa n lng sya ng abikara. Halos sasagasaan lng ng mga druka ang abikara dahil sa loot bug inalisan p ng lakas. tapos mga karya n weak set sakata samyoga p rin ang nka +15 set.
Hello GM can u remove the option on all items w/ stun resist just to be fair.
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remove all the stun resist to be fair
you were telling us to be fair.
come on realize.
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i feel u man :g20: :g20: :g20: :g20:
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There are lots of issues like rampant use of CE. And if that is not CE look how powerfull those asura/rakshasa who uses lootbug in KRUMA. Yes all tribes can use lootbug but try it for urself u will see the diff. the casting of skills of asura/rakshasa to deva/garuda.
If u always MONITOR KRUMA u know what im trying to say.
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Please read the topic and what have been discussed before ranting.. I will quote Gm 3000's last post as a reply to your thread..
Here's the thread's link for reference: https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7446.msg10603094#msg10603094 (https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7446.msg10603094#msg10603094)
dear supervisor 4.. fixed stun? you mean that developer that made the shoes of fiery will remove the stun resist status on that shoes? and maybe or maybe the stun will be back.. FIXED? i wonder what FIXED means right now
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ABIKARAS ARE MADE IN THIS GAME TO NUKE.. if they can't kill WHAT IS THE MEANING OF A NUKER then?
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I hope this is not a disappointment to all abikara players. You can test the damage of max level abikara to any tribes as you want, but don't forget that it's kruma and as much as possible opponents use all pots or even heal if there's fs just to regain HP plus stun resist, how could we kill them? Before WOT 3 my character was max level and I know whats the capability of abikara damage in other tribes, I tried changing build and it's useless. I'm not against with the max level but then again my concern is the balance damage with other tribes. Let's not think the benefit of others but the benefits of all. If we're talking about the fairness in this game.
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as GM said.. if your not happy.. play dora :lol: :lol:
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as GM said.. if your not happy.. play dora :lol: :lol:
buang2 gyud ka da haha
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It's more fun in TANTRAFR..
LET's PLAY BARBIE.. :lol: :lol:
I'd like to share our IT Consultant usual quote.. :lol: WHAT YOU CAN'T MONITOR, YOU CAN'T MANAGE... :lol: :lol:
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ang unfair naman nun sa damage tsk tsk
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It's more fun in TANTRAFR..
LET's PLAY BARBIE.. :lol: :lol:
I'd like to share our IT Consultant usual quote.. :lol: WHAT YOU CAN'T MONITOR, YOU CAN'T MANAGE... :lol: :lol:
agree
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he just made a decision without thinking.
its barbie time.
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before you take the abikara and samabat job to its own extinction.. give them back their stun, remove the item/s that removed it.. without stun and with no power at as21 abikaras will no longer be enjoyable.. why don't you try the damage of the as21 abikara first FR? :g7: you suddenly moved a suggestion into action without thinking of what it will do to that job :g7: without stun an as21 abikara can't kill :g7: :g7:
THINK :g34:
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and btw FR.. if you want the abikaras back to as21 you should do the editing now.. why ask people to do something they don't want? :g7:
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i'm not even playing tantra fr anymore.. i just don't want my friends / foes to lose the enthusiasm to play this game same as mine :lol:
think think think :lol:
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I hope this is not a disappointment to all abikara players. You can test the damage of max level abikara to any tribes as you want, but don't forget that it's kruma and as much as possible opponents use all pots or even heal if there's fs just to regain HP plus stun resist, how could we kill them? Before WOT 3 my character was max level and I know whats the capability of abikara damage in other tribes, I tried changing build and it's useless. I'm not against with the max level but then again my concern is the balance damage with other tribes. Let's not think the benefit of others but the benefits of all. If we're talking about the fairness in this gam
HAHAHAHAHA...... :too-much-wine: :cry-y: :too-much-wine:
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i'm not even playing tantra fr anymore.. i just don't want my friends / foes to lose the enthusiasm to play this game same as mine
BITTER69 is right... :g20: :g20: :g20: :g20: :g20: :g20: :g20: :g20: :g19: :g19:
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nasayo na ang lahat .. minamahjal kita pagkat ..,,....
XD
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i myself did not complain about this kind of bug GM 3k but since you implemented to the abikaras level down bug that they should level up to amara 200 therefore for the fairness of the game you should also disable loot drop in kruma so that all tribe will be balance because alot of abikaras are disappointed since this makes druka invulnerable in high kruma... i am a satya not druka nor an abikara but i feel their sentiments because abikara now is down graded... hope you will reconsider this and the rules you implement it not for the benefit of all but for the benefit of 1 druka who posted and tested damages of bug abikara level...
to make the rules fair i hope you should disable loot bug also so that all tribe will be balance...
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i'm not even playing tantra fr anymore.. i just don't want my friends / foes to lose the enthusiasm to play this game same as mine :lol:
d kina pla nag lalaro. .wag kanang makialam.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: your not a family of tantra fr anymore cause you stop, and now your encouraging your friend that if they play in this game they lose there enthusiasm? always remember bro your friend has there own decision, i think your just jealous.. come back in the game bro.. the door is always open for you, i will hug you.. i will kiss you, lets make some love :)
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kung wala k rin masasabing maganda wag k n rin makialam. hindi nmn para sau ung message. :bla:
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d kina pla nag lalaro. .wag kanang makialam.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: your not a family of tantra fr anymore cause you stop, and now your encouraging your friend that if they play in this game they lose there enthusiasm? always remember bro your friend has there own decision, i think your just jealous.. come back in the game bro.. the door is always open for you, i will hug you.. i will kiss you, lets make some love :)
YOU'RE
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d kina pla nag lalaro. .wag kanang makialam.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: your not a family of tantra fr anymore cause you stop, and now your encouraging your friend that if they play in this game they lose there enthusiasm? always remember bro your friend has there own decision, i think your just jealous.. come back in the game bro.. the door is always open for you, i will hug you.. i will kiss you, lets make some love :)
THEIR
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after the samabat extinction the abikara will follow because of this hahahahah
i understand that the samabat are not nukers but if an abikara lose their damage what will they become just another useless dispaly in kruma since they can't stun players and they have very low damage... if you think the damage of a max level abikara is considerably ok? question... what is the normal HP of druka and what are the skill they can use against this "considerably ok" damage of abikara how many skill does an abikara would use just to kill one druka? hahahhaa before the abikara use all his/her skill he might as well be dead XD just saying... poor mages (abi/sammy) tribe they will be extinct ahahahaha
:)
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still wanna continue your arrogant and useless debate art? instead of playing too much tantra try to learn a better english mna :g20: :lol:
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after the samabat extinction the abikara will follow because of this hahahahah
i understand that the samabat are not nukers but if an abikara lose their damage what will they become just another useless dispaly in kruma since they can't stun players and they have very low damage... if you think the damage of a max level abikara is considerably ok? question... what is the normal HP of druka and what are the skill they can use against this "considerably ok" damage of abikara how many skill does an abikara would use just to kill one druka? hahahhaa before the abikara use all his/her skill he might as well be dead XD just saying... poor mages (abi/sammy) tribe they will be extinct ahahahaha
:)
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still wanna continue your arrogant and useless debate art? instead of playing too much tantra try to learn a better english mna :g20: :lol:
grammar natzi hahahahah
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grammar natzi hahahahah
nah just returning the favor :lol: useless replies :g7:
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sorry taga gubat lang po.. bago lang nka aral ng english.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:.. laro kna bro.. halikana.. laruin mo na tong puso ko
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sorry taga gubat lang po.. bago lang nka aral ng english.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:.. laro kna bro.. halikana.. laruin mo na tong puso ko
i just do hope that we avoid spam...
just post relevant to this topic instead making nonsense reply :)
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can we have like have a certain limit for this level down bug since some of the mages are abusing this leveling down their char as much possible.. this is a problem since Tantra ph days... some of the mages leveling down as much as12 or lower hahahah
this is just suggestion :)
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what if di nlng tanggalin ang lvl down bug... pero my limit lang ang lvl down.. pwede nmn ata hanggang amara 18 lang ang lvl down..
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what if di nlng tanggalin ang lvl down bug... pero my limit lang ang lvl down.. pwede nmn ata hanggang amara 18 lang ang lvl down..
that is what im suggesting :)
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that is what im suggesting :)
d ko na basa. .sorry :)
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i just do hope that we avoid spam...
just post relevant to this topic instead making nonsense reply :)
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can we have like have a certain limit for this level down bug since some of the mages are abusing this leveling down their char as much possible.. this is a problem since Tantra ph days... some of the mages leveling down as much as12 or lower hahahah
this is just suggestion :)
i think there's one thing to argue on this.. GM 3k told us that loot trick or loot bug whatever you call it is not actually a bug it's a game feature that the developer/s cannot remove right? lvl down is also a game feature that the developer/s can't remove.. so why do this now? GM 3k said that abuse of this such bugs / tricks makes a player weak.. let them be called weak :g52: :DEAD: :g52g:
just don't lead a decision to an extinction :g34:
this game offers an exp down every time a monster kills you so why do it now why not think of this before the patch was even implemented.. do this to favor a tribe? a persona? come on!
THINK THINK THINK
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We have tried to adjust the stun immune settings and we are still observing the effects of this changes in game. We are open to changes, new ideas and still hoping we can come up with the best way to solve this issue. This problem wont be fixed if we will keep on complaining.. much better if we suggest and give ideas to the admin. We cannot tolerate something that is wrong nor abnormal.. Lets keep the discussion healthy and avoid spamming.
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i just do hope that we avoid spam...
just post relevant to this topic instead making nonsense reply :)
@ topic
can we have like have a certain limit for this level down bug since some of the mages are abusing this leveling down their char as much possible.. this is a problem since Tantra ph days... some of the mages leveling down as much as12 or lower hahahah
this is just suggestion :)
I think astica 21 is not the suggested limit for the level of the mages because it has the lowest and the uggliest damage to other tribes. I suggest astica20 or astica19 because it has a decent damage to other tribes like the archers, druka, yuda, fs, banar and satya base on my experiments that i have done. An example of that is the Hima Batia skill known as "ice chaya" I've noticed that when your char is astica21 it only gives a 10k damage compared to astica20 which is 14k-16k damage against other tribes. Then if the level limit will be implemented there is a possibility that anti-mage build will be gone and I think it's normally good because no more imba damage against mage vs mage because naturally mages should have high resistance to magic attacks.
Also I forgot GM please disable loot bug it's really unfair for us mages. Druka has many disabling skills like stun, blind and sanuta that gives high resist to different abnormal statuses and heals 100 percent HP.
Please return STUN so that everyone can stun and kill not only mages but also the other tribe with stun ability for the fairness of the game.
These are my suggestions about this issue. thanks :)
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I would agree with a certain fix level down so that other mages wont abuse it, just atleast we can have same damage with other tribes. If not level down then I guess fix something in the items or wep because the damages reflect by that especially SOF that has stun resist.
I am welling to cooperate whatever the outcome to this issue as long as the problem resolve for the goodness of all not just for a certain tribe.
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I think astica 21 is not the suggested limit for the level of the mages because it has the lowest and the uggliest damage to other tribes. I suggest astica20 or astica19 because it has a decent damage to other tribes like the archers, druka, yuda, fs, banar and satya base on my experiments that i have done. An example of that is the Hima Batia skill known as "ice chaya" I've noticed that when your char is astica21 it only gives a 10k damage compared to astica20 which is 14k-16k damage against other tribes. Then if the level limit will be implemented there is a possibility that anti-mage build will be gone and I think it's normally good because no more imba damage against mage vs mage because naturally mages should have high resistance to magic attacks.
Also I forgot GM please disable loot bug it's really unfair for us mages. Druka has many disabling skills like stun, blind and sanuta that gives high resist to different abnormal statuses and heals 100 percent HP.
Please return STUN so that everyone can stun and kill not only mages but also the other tribe with stun ability for the fairness of the game.
These are my suggestions about this issue. thanks :)
noted. :g201r:
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I would agree with a certain fix level down so that other mages wont abuse it, just atleast we can have same damage with other tribes. If not level down then I guess fix something in the items or wep because the damages reflect by that especially SOF that has stun resist.
I am welling to cooperate whatever the outcome to this issue as long as the problem resolve for the goodness of all not just for a certain tribe.
Yeah I agree with this. Last night my mage was astica21 and the damage is so ugly that's why I decided to level it down to astica20 or level 199 because the damage on that level is decent enough to kill. Please return stun we need it badly not only mages but also other tribes we need it to counter the effects of Blind from drukas.
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We have tried to adjust the stun immune settings and we are still observing the effects of this changes in game. We are open to changes, new ideas and still hoping we can come up with the best way to solve this issue. This problem wont be fixed if we will keep on complaining.. much better if we suggest and give ideas to the admin. We cannot tolerate something that is wrong nor abnormal.. Lets keep the discussion healthy and avoid spamming.
i think my eyes are joking me.. i think your superiors are not open for any ideas anymore :lol:
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as GM said.. if your not happy.. play dora :lol: :lol:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! buang ka paks!
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Yeah I agree with this. Last night my mage was astica21 and the damage is so ugly that's why I decide to go level down it to astica20 or level 199 because the damage on that level is decent enough to kill. Please return stun we need it badly not only mages but also other tribes we need it to counter the effects of Blind from drukas.
:g20: :g20: :g20: i agree with this
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We have tried to adjust the stun immune settings and we are still observing the effects of this changes in game. We are open to changes, new ideas and still hoping we can come up with the best way to solve this issue. This problem wont be fixed if we will keep on complaining.. much better if we suggest and give ideas to the admin. We cannot tolerate something that is wrong nor abnormal.. Lets keep the discussion healthy and avoid spamming.
what is your suggestion on how to take our ideas then? it's not only complaining mam / sir.. this is an idea i think a good one for your superiors to think on what to do :g34:
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a good friend which still plays tantra fr now gave me an idea.. this was already given to another thread in the forums..
LEVEL DOWN YOUR CHARACTER TO AS18 NOW AND USE CHAKRA RESET IT'S NOT A VIOLATION SINCE YOU HAVE SAME CHAKRA AS OF AN AS18 :lol: :lol:
now that's not a bug :g20:
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I think astica 21 is not the suggested limit for the level of the mages because it has the lowest and the uggliest damage to other tribes. I suggest astica20 or astica19 because it has a decent damage to other tribes like the archers, druka, yuda, fs, banar and satya base on my experiments that i have done. An example of that is the Hima Batia skill known as "ice chaya" I've noticed that when your char is astica21 it only gives a 10k damage compared to astica20 which is 14k-16k damage against other tribes. Then if the level limit will be implemented there is a possibility that anti-mage build will be gone and I think it's normally good because no more imba damage against mage vs mage because naturally mages should have high resistance to magic attacks.
Also I forgot GM please disable loot bug it's really unfair for us mages. Druka has many disabling skills like stun, blind and sanuta that gives high resist to different abnormal statuses and heals 100 percent HP.
Please return STUN so that everyone can stun and kill not only mages but also the other tribe with stun ability for the fairness of the game.
These are my suggestions about this issue. thanks :)
that is my point instead of mandatory leveling an abikara to max astica 21 and they become useless display in kruma... why can we have a certain level to level down just to gain enough damage to survive a 1on1 battle with other tribes...i checked the rankings earlier and i saw that the most level down mages is amara 192/astica 12.. that is what i call "abuse" :) i hope we can have a resolution for this problem :)
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that is my point instead of mandatory leveling an abikara to max astica 21 and they become useless display in kruma... why can we have a certain level to level down just to gain enough damage to survive a 1on1 battle with other tribes...i checked the rankings earlier and i saw that the most level down mages is amara 192/astica 12.. that is what i call "abuse" :) i hope we can have a resolution for this problem :)
or lvl down your mage to astica 18, use chakra reset at 18, have the chakra of an as18 character blow same dmg :lol: helpful or confusing? :g7: :lol:
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or lvl down your mage to astica 18, use chakra reset at 18, have the chakra of an as18 character blow same dmg :lol: helpful or confusing? :g7: :lol:
hahaha brain bleed.. will it have the same damage? really?
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hahaha brain bleed.. will it have the same damage? really?
i think it will or if in such case it will blow a little less since you'll have 1.5 - 1.6k+ chakra only but will still blow better dmg than that idea of having an as21 abikara :lol:
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what is your suggestion on how to take our ideas then? it's not only complaining mam / sir.. this is an idea i think a good one for your superiors to think on what to do :g34:
baka ma banned ka nyan :lol:
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baka ma banned ka nyan :lol:
bkit nmn ako maban? kng iban mn ako eh di clear history since the beginning of chinese history tapos gawa bagong account sabay log in d2.. besides nagbibigay lng ako idea ng kng ano ang nsa utak ko at magiging tunay n reklamo ng karamihan... iisa lng ata nagreklamo about s dmg ng abikara eh ung Sowan lng pero naconsider agad :lol: :g7:
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Done tested, astica level 18 (normal lvl) have higher damage compared to Astica 21 abikara regardless of their chakra distribution given both abikara doesnt have Heart chakra on it. So what do you think is the best way to solve this issue?
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Done tested, astica level 18 (normal lvl) have higher damage compared to Astica 21 abikara regardless of their chakra distribution given both abikara doesnt have Heart chakra on it. So what do you think is the best way to solve this issue?
That is what I have been telling in the other thread. That's why until the Developer find the reason/cause of this bug, I deemed it impossible to regulate level down bug in kruma.
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I think Every suggestion and complaint has been noted already.. Lets just wait for GM 3k to take his action and just accept whatever it is..
I am sure GM 3k and his/her staff are doing their best to FIXED this so called BUG ISSUE for our benefits.. After all GM 3k will always decide what is the best for our game and enjoyment.. :guitare-crack: :guitare-crack:
Take it easy comrades and lets just wait.. :g19: :g19: :g19: :g19:
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I think Every suggestion and complaint has been noted already.. Lets just wait for GM 3k to take his action and just accept whatever it is..
I am sure GM 3k and his/her staff are doing their best to FIXED this so called BUG ISSUE for our benefits.. After all GM 3k will always decide what is the best for our game and enjoyment.. :guitare-crack: :guitare-crack:
Take it easy comrades and lets just wait.. :g19: :g19: :g19: :g19:
i really wonder what "FIXED" is right now :lol:
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Done tested, astica level 18 (normal lvl) have higher damage compared to Astica 21 abikara regardless of their chakra distribution given both abikara doesnt have Heart chakra on it. So what do you think is the best way to solve this issue?
i say give a cap to the lvl down as what mrskindred said.. let's say like an as18 abikara.. try making a poll.. so you know what ABIKARAS would feel about that :saint1:
since this is their issue we're talking.. let abikaras be the superstars of a thread..
so what can you say mam / sir? :g201b: :g201:
until everyone agrees mam / sir you know that there will always be someone complaining in the forums :g22:
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Cast your Votes: POLL (https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7490.msg10603272;topicseen#msg10603272)
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Cast your Votes: POLL (https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7490.msg10603272;topicseen#msg10603272)
i have casted my vote ms supervisor.. but the only flaw maybe the "newly" created characters can still go to that kruma and create the confusion of the damage being inflicted.. so maybe a little repair could be done :g201b:
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before you take the abikara and samabat job to its own extinction.. give them back their stun, remove the item/s that removed it.. without stun and with no power at as21 abikaras will no longer be enjoyable.. why don't you try the damage of the as21 abikara first FR? :g7: you suddenly moved a suggestion into action without thinking of what it will do to that job :g7: without stun an as21 abikara can't kill :g7: :g7:
THINK :g34:
ibigay stun ng abikara... ibalik ang pera pinambili ng sof wahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ibigay stun ng abikara... ibalik ang pera pinambili ng sof wahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
buhi na isab kaw yan utuh? y na class?
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To hell with SOF. Bring the STUN back. Let the stars revolve around their heads. :flamingdevil: