LEVELLED DOWN ABIKARAS

[MINT]

Your understanding of what i am trying to say here is totally way off, please re-read and digest from the very first post i made in this thread. No way i said bug can be diminish nor I claimed to be "good" (righteous), those other bugs you mention are all can be classified as accidental and no way you can cause by yourself (in short unintentional or inherit glitch) whereas the "levelled down" is purely intentional because player acted on it.

Please try to understand that loot effect and levelled down chars are totally different in nature,we will just repeat the argument over and over. Also let us avoid one liner statement on this thread and preserve the healhty discussion without resorting to personal jibe or insults. (This for general audience)

 

lootbug and chaya bug? unintentional? or inherit glitch? bro hehe using loot bug and chaya bug is also a choice.. right? if a player wants to hit faster crit? they clik on sumtn to loot right? to kill the target? im not trying to make flame on this topic hehe.. i just find the topic sort of bias,, ehheh well lootbug chaya bug and level down bug is a CHOICE! hehe LEVEL down is a choice of mage users. asura users has their choice of using lootbug and chaya bug.. Name one asura yaksa or even banar in this server who doesnt use loot bug? hehe

bak to topic.. im not flaming on you. i just want to say if you think level down of mage is imba? then i think GM should remove also loot bug and chaya bug and watever bug here to be fair. dont make level down and bug damage of mage a big deal. its just fair..

[Sowan]

You said it. If Loot bugging is an inherit glitch and not intentional so using it is abuse? So I can't find any way that Loot bug can be tolerated if you want to admonish Level Down bug. I will totally agree with your proposal if it comes with balancing condition:
1. Decrease Stun Resistance of all tribes except Satya.
Because I repeat There's no way an As21 Abikara can kill other tribes without stun.

The term loot bugging name tag is an overkill but loot effect technique i think is more approriate. The abuse term cannot be apply into it simply because clicking ground and picking up loot is part of the game, you may not agree with my argument but you cannot say the same to levelled down chars.

Any suggestion are welcome to resolve the issue and your input is a nice start.

 

[MINT]

The term loot bugging name tag is an overkill but loot effect technique i think is more approriate. The abuse term cannot be apply into it simply because clicking ground and picking up loot is part of the game, you may not agree with my argument but you cannot say the same to levelled down chars.

Any suggestion are welcome to resolve the issue and your input is a nice start.

 

no comment.. hehe things will go over and over again ehhe.. anyways freedom of speech ahha.. if you think level down is unfair and bug damage? hehe up up 

[Sowan]

no comment.. hehe things will go over and over again ehhe.. anyways freedom of speech ahha.. if you think level down is unfair and bug damage? hehe up up 

You may not agree with my argument but I appreciate your input to this discussion.

 

[ehlhaii]

If the damage isnt balance with the level,what would you call that?

[MINT]

If the damage isnt balance with the level,what would you call that?

wow sexy!!! 

[Jada02]

 Here are the Damage Test Results: 

Abikara with half nerve/half mental; no heart;
damage inflicted to druka:


lvl down abi:
sidharu = 37.9
zakuti - 25,379
sugama - 25k

druka with ajita:
sugama - 8.9k


astica 21 (max abi)
sidharu = 26.9
zakuti - 16k
sugama = 17k

druka with ajita skill:
sugama - 3.6k

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ABIKARA vs ABIKARA

abi max 21 vs abi lvl down astica 18 (same build):

lvl down abi inflicted damage on max abi:
zakuti skill =  25k

max abi inflicted damage on lvl down abi:
zakuti skill = 17k


pure mental max abi vs hybrid lvl down abi:

lvl down abi inflicted damage:
27k sugama
24k zakuti
39k sidharu

astica 21 abi inflicted damage:
18k sugama
15.6 zakuti
25.5  sidharu


pure nerve max abi vs hybrid lvl down abi

level down abi inflicted damage:
sugama - 28k
zakuti = 26k
sidharu = 39k

max astica 21 abi inflicted damage:
sugama = 17k
zakuti = 16k
sidharu = 25k


I tried to reset the chakra of the max abi and test its damage to a druka:

pure nerve abikara astica 21 vs druka, no ajita 
zakuti - 15k
sugama = 16k


pure mental astica 21 vs druka, no ajita
sugama = 16k
zakuti = 16k
sidharu = 25k
meteor = 25.9

max Heart/the rest mental vs druka, no ajita
sugama = 14.9
zakuti - 13.1
sidharu = 22k

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Seen their dmg difference? More or Less 10k damage difference per Skill, really imbalance whereas LOOT EFFECT will NEVER increase your DAMAGE. am i right?

levelled down mage doing the loot bug effect = imba.. 
Why cry with loot  technique if abikaras can also do it? in fact all tribes could..

[Sowan]

 Here are Damage Test Results: 

Abikara with half nerve/half mental; no heart;
damage inflicted to druka:


lvl down abi:
sidharu = 37.9
zakuti - 25,379
sugama - 25k

druka with ajita:
sugama - 8.9k


astica 21 (max abi)
sidharu = 26.9
zakuti - 16k
sugama = 17k

druka with ajita skill:
sugama - 3.6k

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ABIKARA vs ABIKARA

abi max 21 vs abi lvl down astica 18 (same build):

lvl down abi inflicted damage on max abi:
zakuti skill =  25k

max abi inflicted damage on lvl down abi:
zakuti skill = 17k


pure mental max abi vs hybrid lvl down abi:

lvl down abi inflicted damage:
27k sugama
24k zakuti
39k sidharu

astica 21 abi inflicted damage:
18k sugama
15.6 zakuti
25.5  sidharu


pure nerve max abi vs hybrid lvl down abi

level down abi inflicted damage:
sugama - 28k
zakuti = 26k
sidharu = 39k

max astica 21 abi inflicted damage:
sugama = 17k
zakuti = 16k
sidharu = 25k


I tried to reset the chakra of the max abi and test its damage to a druka:

pure nerve abikara astica 21 vs druka, no ajita 
zakuti - 15k
sugama = 16k


pure mental astica 21 vs druka, no ajita
sugama = 16k
zakuti = 16k
sidharu = 25k
meteor = 25.9

max Heart/the rest mental vs druka, no ajita
sugama = 14.9
zakuti - 13.1
sidharu = 22k

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Seen their dmg difference? More or Less 10k damage difference per Skill, really imbalance whereas LOOT EFFECT will NEVER increase your DAMAGE. am i right?

levelled down mage doing the loot bug effect = imba.. 
Why cry with loot bug effect if abikaras can also do it? in fact all tribes could..

Clearly there is imbalance but having proven that, we must also address Mages fighting chance when they revert back to maxed level.

As what Gypsy proposing the anti stun effect of sof can be lessen to accomodate and I think it is doable without trying to fix a bug that can be double edge at the end.

 

[Cinromalarui]

wew talk about detailed analysis 

in my opinion, either fix the damage of abi or live with level down bug.  my char raciro is heart type, yet i can kill most abi with SS.  i suggest to increase their damage and decrease their speed  (:

[Maestro]

i vote hybrid ^^ ate Jada

[SniperAmmo]

hmmm guys lets stay on the topic, for me if you want to address some other bugs like "loot bug", "chaya bug" or any other bugs or glitches, why not make another thread for it? That isn't much of a pain right? Its good to see many threads that can help the admins and also with the community.    Let the Admins here pick or decide whether what thread they want to fix first. Lets wait and see on how the admin works with his community.

Lets HOPE and PRAY (very important)  that admins may reply,
if NOT = then for the time being just accept the FACT that you need to wait for the Admins to fix it  (Just smoke some weed so you can wait..) 
if YES = Then MUCH Better, another bug/glitch being fixed that the community can benefit.   



Don't know if anyone here or just me knows this simple logic cycle.
Don't mind me im just strolling. 

[Maestro]

wew talk about detailed analysis 

in my opinion, either fix the damage of abi or live with level down bug.  my char raciro is heart type, yet i can kill most abi with SS.  i suggest to increase their damage and decrease their speed  (:

I vote for this bro 

[Jada02]

It will be cool if we can come up with a possible and best solution for this issue..
Yes i agree with gypsy's post in previous page, If ever levelling down of mage will be prohibited due to its ABNORMAL damage, might as well adjust the stun resist that we have in the Shoes of fiery so that mages have a fighting chance against other tribes. About increasing the damage of astica 21 mages, good suggestion too but upto what extent the damage should be increased? maybe its a bit complicated..

[Cinromalarui]

I vote for this bro

ok

It will be cool if we can come up with a possible and best solution for this issue..
Yes i agree with gypsy's post in previous page, If ever levelling down of mage will be prohibited due to its ABNORMAL damage, might as well adjust the stun resist that we have in the Shoes of fiery so that mages have a fighting chance against other tribes. About increasing the damage of astica 21 mages, good suggestion too but upto what extent the damage should be increased? maybe its a bit complicated..

agree

[3000]

Hello wait maintenance....  Maybe Stun Fixed .... 

https://forum-tantra.3000fr.com/index.php?topic=7476.0

For Level etc ... wait please  --- STUDY

THANKS ....